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Last update for a month | Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:14 pm by James SkullBlood | Not much happened that was planned to do in this update, seeing how the academy been very slow and almost dead, we have decided to take a break for a month and after a month we will try again.
We've tried our best to keep activity up but since Wolf_Shadowrider couldn't get on to recruit due to his internet, we couldn't keep activity up. I couldn't really recruit as I've gotten a lot busy with school work and stuff. I tried my best to keep activity alive with the event "Referring/Inviting" but no one ever tried to recruit.
Thanks for being here while we was active. We will try again in a month time frame.
The forums will still remain up for anyone who wants to try to help out.
Until next month, this has been JamesSkullBlood and Wolf_Shadowrider signing out. See everyone in a month.
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| | Proposing A New Testing Rubric | |
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+4Alice paul17316ccc RootinestTootenist Yoruichi Shihōin 8 posters | Author | Message |
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Yoruichi Shihōin
Duelingbook Name : Yoruichi Shihoin Posts : 11 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-19
| Subject: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:33 am | |
| First things first, here is a list of pre-made decks that I believe would be better for a mirror match test: 1. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664270 - Counter Fairies 2. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664229 - Dark Worlds 3. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664225 - Fire Fists 4. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664310 - Heroes 5. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664224 - Madolches 6. https://www.duelingbook.com/deck?id=1664341 - Satellarknights These decks are specifically geared towards a mirror match and are made so that the duels shouldn't end too quickly. Test Duel 1 (Pre-made Deck mirror test) Pre-Made Deck picked by player
Pre-Made Deck: Which deck did the player choose for this test?
Rematch Needed: Were any rematches needed to get a more accurate grade? If so, how many? (All rematches must be within the same SINGLE duel, you CANNOT re-host for the same test duel, or host a MATCH duel.)
Tester DuelingBook Name: Player DuelingBook Name: Duel Replay Link:
Sportsmanship: 0 to 40 How did the player react when there was a disagreement? Did they get angry or upset easily? Was the player pleasant to play with?
Combo Proficiency: 0 to 20 Was the player able to use the deck's effect combination abilities? Could the player understand why and how the deck does what it does?
Adaptability: 0 to 20 Was the player able to come to an understanding about their deck, despite winning or losing, and was able to fluidly move about each interaction that was set in front of them?
Ability to Overcome Obstacles: 0 to 20 How well did the player react in the duel against counters, defenses, strong monsters, etc.
Pre-Made Deck Test Total: 0 to 100
Test Duel 2 (Personal Deck)
Tester DuelingBook Name: Tester Deck Name: What did the tester call this deck? (Inappropriate words will be deleted and replaced)
Player Deck Name: What did the player call this deck? (Inappropriate words will be deleted and replaced)
Player Deck Link: The export/import link of the player's deck used in this duel.
Duel Replay Link:
Outcome Of The Duel: Tester winning 2-0 = 0 points Tester winning 2-1 = 25 points Player being tested winning 2-1 = 50 points Player being tested winning 2-0 = 100 points
Sportsmanship: 0 to 10 points. How did the player react when there was a disagreement? Did they get angry or upset easily? Was the player pleasant to play with? (This is graded less heavily this time because the tester should already know how sportsmanlike the player is)
General Understanding of Their Deck: 0 to 30 points. How well did they use their deck? Did they make smart plays despite win or loss?
General Understanding of Their Opponent's Deck: 0 to 20 points Was the player able to see what the opponent's strategy was and play around it as a result? Did this work?
Awareness: 0 to 10 points. Was the player conscious to their mistakes, along with those of the tester? Was the player able to turn around a mistake that was made?
Side Decking skills: 0 to 30 points. Was the player able to properly bring in cards that would be of use and definitively affect the tide of the duel without getting rid of crucial cards to their deck's strategy?
Personal Deck Test Total: 0 to 200 points.
Ruling Test: 0 to 100 points. https://testmoz.com/1636636 (Any testers who would need the admin login to check test results, please contact me or someone else that you know has the current password) Any decent dorm placement test should also be able to test a player's knowledge of the game.
Overall Test Results: 0 to 400 points. Welcome to _______!
Holactie White: 381 to 400 Obelisk Blue: 281 to 380 Ra Yellow: 181 to 280 Slifer Red: 0 to 180
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| | | RootinestTootenist
Duelingbook Name : PLivingston Posts : 51 DP : 254 Join date : 2018-03-01
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:26 am | |
| I feel you are splitting the results of sportsmanship too much. 40 to 10 is a huge jump! Furthermore 100 points for a ruling test seems a bit much considering it can jump them into the next dorm for free if they cheat. Last thing I'm against is the personal duel having an outcome score when the mirror duel does not. I understand and agree with it being a match and grading the siding, but that still shouldn't allow the outcome to have such a huge sway on points when the other means nothing. It simply devalues the mirror portion. As stated above I do agree with the personal duel being a match. I also agree with the idea of testing someones personal abilities over their sportsmanship as you did in both portions. In addition to this we should have a general deduction amount for each category so the testers do not do their own and make everything confusing. This way we can avoid certain testers being more desired than others. | |
| | | paul17316ccc
Duelingbook Name : paul17316ccc Posts : 66 DP : 225 Join date : 2018-03-09
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:44 am | |
| isn't it like that anyway | |
| | | Alice
Duelingbook Name : Nevergonnagetit Posts : 2 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-20
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:58 am | |
| I can't view the decks on mobile right now. But i don't like the idea of pre-made decks. Just my two cents. | |
| | | Yoruichi Shihōin
Duelingbook Name : Yoruichi Shihoin Posts : 11 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-19
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 10:41 am | |
| Alice, no one does, except James and Wolf. That's why it's still included.
As for you, Rootinest, I'm about to address all of your concerns.
1. Different grading for sportsmanship is relevant because the mirror duel is not intended to be competitive, so you grade more on the duelist's personality than anything, thus why sportsmanship is two fifth's of the mirror duel's grade. The match duel, on the other hand, is more of a test of the player's skill and less of their personality. So, sportsmanship has less effect on the outcome of a more competitive match because the competitive/personal deck match is weighed more on the skill-side, and the mirror duel is weighed more on personality. Also, consider the fact that after the pre-made deck duels, the tester should already know how sportsman-like or unsportsman-like the player being tested is, so there's no point in having a grade worth more points in the second portion, after the first duel.
2. Secondly, the match duel's outcome is graded so heavily because of the fact of the matter that the tester should be using a competitive deck along with the player being tested, so weighing whether or not the testee wins the match is a testament to the skill of the player. The outcome matters much less in the mirror duel because the pre-made mirror duel is intended to test the player's concentration, understanding of the game, and sportsmanship. See point one.
3. You cannot cheat on the ruling test. You have every resource available for you, google, bing, yugioh wikia, etc. It tests memory and resourcefulness. If you're worried about people taking it multiple times, if you have the admin password, you can see who takes it and how many times. | |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | Lelouch Lamperouge
Duelingbook Name : ? Posts : 7 DP : 100 Join date : 2018-03-17
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:25 pm | |
| Aren't tests meant to measure someone's skill? So to put such an emphasize on sportsmanship kinda pointless? I never understood why academies did this besides to pad a few extra points. If you have sportsmanship it shouldnt heavily affect their outcome | |
| | | Alice
Duelingbook Name : Nevergonnagetit Posts : 2 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-20
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:16 pm | |
| Will there at least be more premade deck choices in the future? | |
| | | The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message | SSSSSnake
Duelingbook Name : i'm a snake D: Posts : 5 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-20
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:36 pm | |
| i mean sknights and counter fairies are choices that's all i have to say on this subject | |
| | | Wolf_Shadowrider Co-Founder
Duelingbook Name : Wolf_Shadowrider Posts : 152 DP : 186 Join date : 2017-11-30 Age : 24 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Fri Mar 23, 2018 6:45 pm | |
| I have to say this test looks good, the mirror match can be a single duel and the personal deck can be a match duel, I honestly see little things wrong with this rubric. It may take a bit more time, sure, but to get an accurate grading it's worth it. The decks on the other hand I cannot say for sure, they will need to be play tested quite a bit, each one, in order to ensure that they will be consistent towards the moderate speed we are looking for. If they are too fast or slow after a few tests on each deck, we'll have to come to a conclusion it isn't going to work and move onto the next one. As for the ruling quiz, I think it'd be a good idea to lower the points, mostly because if they do test honestly and get it wrong, it'd be a huge reduction to their grade. Not to mention the more likely case of just looking things up or just already knowing these things. I also think the effects of certain cards should be displayed depending on the question, rather than just letting the person hope they know the effect by heart. I don't know if this is able to be changed in the ruling test, all I know is that it seems like a good idea, but needs to be refined, in my opinion anyway. | |
| | | Yoruichi Shihōin
Duelingbook Name : Yoruichi Shihoin Posts : 11 DP : 0 Join date : 2018-03-19
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:51 am | |
| So, Wolf, it is a standard thing to be able to look up rulings for ruling tests. It's not considered cheating, and, in most cases, it's actually pushed for.
Ruling tests quiz you on: 1. Your ability to remember certain mechanics and effects and 2. Your resourcefulness.
You're SUPPOSED to look effects up, rulings up, game mechanics up on google, on bing, etc. It is NOT considered cheating. This is because on the fly, if something comes up out of nowhere that you don't know, you're supposed to be resourceful enough to find the ruling online, or talk to a judge, or anything of the nature.
The point is being correct on a ruling and using said information to improve your skill at the game.
It is not expected in the least that you need to just retain this information, you're supposed to be able to look it up. | |
| | | 001067149
Duelingbook Name : 001067149 Posts : 17 DP : 150 Join date : 2017-12-23 Location : Here, obviously, but not There
| Subject: Re: Proposing A New Testing Rubric Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:51 am | |
| Personally, I only really have a single thing, that has popped out at me anyway, that I am uneasy about.
And that would be the Outcome of The Duel section. This is a potential problem, as the testers have a certain variety of skill, so in a way, this can be quite unfair.
Just a thought. But other than that. Quite nice indeed. What do you say we experiment with the idea Wolf? oh, and James? O.o | |
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